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Program Name/Site URL________Warning-Comments__[#PeopleReportedSame]__________

1) RabbitConnection         Admin Ignore Refund Emails. All Emails!        [1]
2) NitroClicks              Reported they dont payout if request?          [3]
   Now called NOCS
3) Chrono-Gold		    Dont answer emails or refunds,
                            and site referral links failed or down         [1]
4) 4x4Program		    Say hacked accounts and give refunds but
                            dont have a email webform to ask for one       [1]
5) AlpsCASINO		    Ignore emails - Dont pay owed commissions      [1]
6) 911Hits.com              Ignore emails, Deleted Acct wrongfully etc     [1]
7) SendMoreInfo		    Bad support. Can only change address Info
                            BY PHONE! and do ignore support requests.      [1]
8) e-Spice		    They had hosting problems and bad backups
                            of everyones data and LOST ALL REFERRALS!      [2]
			    Hence, loosing you hard earned commissions.
			    [ They have relaunched. % of cash from
				advertisers pays the clicking it seems]

9) paidresponse	            Will close your account without real proof,
	                    as paraniod about fraud due to their system
                            set up method. Warning! dont risk loosing
			    your $60us joining fee. Better products and
                            commissions to resell can be found else where. [1+]

10) 1heluva/bubblebucks     warnings: at http://www.fraudsandscams.com     [5]
11) clickitycash	    Aug 2003. Both Sites Closed down by FTC

12) allyousubmitters.com    Send Trick(cheat) email links so innocent people 
                            get caught out so is a excuss to close down their
                            accounts without warning. VERY SCAMMY methods  [2+]
			    Gold Upgrade NOT WORTH IT. Get 1 Downline
 			    member ONLY. Dont waste your $50 or Time
			    Just read their TOS, many methods to close your
			    account without warning if they feel like it.
			    *Hows a $20 order pay for 10000 members reading
			     a 5 cent email? Thats $500 in my books.

		
13) TheCashDoctor.com	    Paid to Read Email. Very poor support.          [2]
                            Paid membership isnt worth it. You send
			    your monthly email AD for emerald $87!
                            upgrade and it never goes out nor does
                            support reply. They kept loosing the email.
			    Also a very high payout of $150 to $200
                            you'll be like 1000 years old before you can
                            claim. They just seem to promote on ebay
                            site memberships in emails to boost income
		            and ignore your own Ads to go out.
			    Whats worse is the support email BOUNCES!
			    [ Appears the Owner is a college guy.
			      stuck more with exams and swot then running
			      the web site. Hes recently improved the
	                      scripts but its very messy to change banner
                              or submit emerald Ads each month STILL! ]	

			   Dec 2004 Update - Appears they have sold part
                           to a new owner and restructuring. This is not
                           a good sign. Tried a AD run which produced no
                           results for the high cost. Few hundred clicks
			   but just means they havent fake robot clickers
                           as they have better read credit security
                           but are just pricey. Atleast admin now dont
                           loose your emails to them but I wont be using them
                           again.


14) Fantastic-Mail.com	   Poor Admin Support. Loose Orders and takes       [9]
                           Days to even hear back. 5 days and still 
			   no paid email sent. So both the members and
                           the advertiser loose out.
                           States you get no less then a 50 cent email
                           but converting the sites Dollar currency 
                           back to real cash, a member is clicking it
                           comes out like $1=0.009 real cash.
			   TOS states you cant withdraw real cash earnings
			   and must spend it on Advertising. Also
                           you need like $10,000 dollars to send a email
			   to 1/4 of the members when you cash out.
			   DONT BE FOOLED!

			   UPDATE Dec 2004 - a $30 Ad run never happened 
			   with them. They are simply collecting funds
                           knowing payment processors wont refund
                           intangible goods. Dont waste your hard earned
                           cash. Admin dont reply to emails to any known
                           address. 

			   Join a Proper Paid To Read Program Instead
                           like our own Program here at ABMA
                           We always pay out on reads and referral purchases
                           http://www.artbiz2000.com/PaidReads
                           

15) Blue-Fishy.com         Has improved with new ownership but obviously    [5]
			   a cashflow problem with excusses, as it takes
			   45 days to redraw a $5.50 cash out.
                           In fact it takes much longer then this. Months!
		           I (the editor) is still waiting for a payout
			   and its now 12+ months on since I requested it.
			   Admin now ignoring my emails about the delay!
			   It took 1 year to earn $5.50 even with downline
			   so dont expect to making a living clicking emails.
			   Update Dec 2004 - Looks now as if they going under
                           Redemption page has a message unable to claim and
                           talk of new partnership or structuring again.

16) JuiceBoosted.com       Suspicious site. Admin ignoring emails           [1]
                           on how the program will earn money for all of its
                           members by simplying joining for free? 
                           Are they just collecting email addresses?
			   keeping an eye on this until launch.
			   Again, if admin dont answer any questions
                           on any site, always treat it as suspect
			   after all, if you requested a refund and they
                           dont answer support questions even then dont
                           expect refunds either.

17) Clicks4u.com           Admin never replied to emails. Has never paid    [5]
                           owned commissions of $74, only way is to spend
                           on traffic/membership as hell will freeze over
                           if want it paid in cash. Search the web you 
                           find others with same complaints. Also now the
                           traffic is less useful and less unique
                           buy better traffic else where and promote
                           a website that actual pays its affiliates!
                           also the golden rule is look after your
                           affilates and they will look after you.
                           poor support is always the first sign of 
                           a website in trouble! I for one have surfed it
                           daily since its launch but that day has come to
                           a end now.     
			   UPDATE! Found another way to get paid since
			   admin is not communicating or paying requests
                           its risky and depends if your downline or new
                           referrals buy. But upgrade to Bronze membership
                           then when someone buys they send your paypal the
                           cash and you can then debit it from your owed
                           balance. But you might end up with $10 or less
                           sitting there and founds only go to paypal
                           but could work. Thats to all
                           stuck in this situation with the admin not
                           paying you owed commissions!
                         
*** GPTR Systems in general appear to be 80% Fake Clicks with cheat products
available to read a email and it click links. If buying Ad runs make sure the
Paid to Read site requires a login and even a random number to click
after reading or before reading to ensure its read. Most PTR seem to have
mostly non-english memberships as well. AD runs in general to 10,000
only produces a few 300 to 1000 clicks if lucky and maybe get a couple of 
sign ups if the product if free to join. The results I got suggest if its over
a few dollars for a ad run, then its not worth using them. If they only accept
e-gold the owners more likely to be non-english owners and the membership
as well. The results are almost as bad as using AUTO-SURFERS if trying to
get sign ups for your business.


P.S. Because a site pays out a few times doesnt mean its a 'SAFE' 
program to invest your time or money in. 1heluva claimed to be legit
but still FTC closed them down and they claimed to pay out $100000s
P.S.S. The more reported problems by users e.g. [3] for the same program,
the more risk joining that program will be or could be.
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A *NEW* Email (March 2004) sent to us at Hall-of-Shame
from one of our ABMA Members

To whom it may concern--

  Up until recent (today or yesterday)--I was a member of Nitroclicks (www.nocs.com) 

  I had $414.75  in my account and when I joined them you had to
 accumulate $500 in doing tasks, but as of Jan, 2004 they changed the
 payout to $50 so I asked for cashout and the more I requested they kept
 blocking my account saying I had more than one account--which was a
 downright LIE and excuse not to pay me.  They terminated my account
 recently and I have filed a "INTERNET FRAUD" complaint on the site as 
well.  If you can put this website on the HALL OF SHAME to warn others as
 well as advertisers not to advertise, maybe the lack of funds will close
 them down permently
 
Thank you,
Robin Cantor 

Editors Note! I heard this many of times over the years. That they
werent paying out and coming up with TOS breakage claims without
showing IP traces, account names or any other data to backup
their claims which might be a claim of multiple accounts.
But ABMA had this flagged for many years now and still we hear
about complaints even in 2004 so people are still not checking out
a company before joining them before working with or for them. 
In respect though we at ABMA have a few TOS breakers as well
in various programs we offer e.g. costperaction signup service!
These people oddly seem to come mostly from china or india.. Why?
Beats me. If they just followed the rules and not cheat they would
simply make money and not get suspended. Cheating hurts us all.
Our sales are down because of so many SCAMs each year making people
distrust buying or using the internet.

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Snippet LATEST NEWS Clips on FRAUD.
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Bogus Job Offers for working at home
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Job offer to handle goods and send it to their so called clients
 
they send you 4 boxes with nothing inside, with instructions to send to a list of clients.
they wire you funds to your bank account to cover handling and postage and the cut for your time.
 
you pay for posting.. and then they get you to wire back the left over funds due to some reason..
 
then what happens is the claim no goods arrived and get the banks to refund  the whole lot and the banks do cos of the law!, where you end up paying out of your pocket the difference of course (I guess this works like the nigarian money scam)
 
also they add javascript loader for keyloggers to their website,  since you have to login their website to update sent good fields
so they the grab your other passwords on pc
hoping you used internet banking of course to do their business, so they can access you bank and wire more funds to them.
 
they perhaps even write a new keylogger for you so bypasses nortons secruity checks
 
beware of these bogus job offers for working at home
 
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OLD Snippet NEWS 2000-2003
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Phil Piccolo - the one man Internet crime wave. Take a look at his numerous
concurrent ongoing scam products and programs:

OneQwest/UNS1 Internet Kiosks
Power Health International
ReferEveryone.com
PAP System.com
GECC - Global E-Cash Card
Magnetrol Liquid Enhancer and Shower Vitalizer
HelpingHands.com
TravelAgent99.com 
PreRegisterForFree.com
PTS System.com

You must give Mr. Piccolo his due - no MLM scam artist has EVER scammed so many
people in so many ways at the same time. But Phil wants even MORE of your money.
Even though Phil says:

"It took over TEN Million dollars and Four Years to create RE and it takes over
$150,000 a month to maintain it."

(2)===========================================
Tonight we received an email from support@paypal.com
with the subject of URGENT: PayPal Account Update
[Note! other sites targeted the same way are egold & stormpay]

In this email, it had said that

"Dear PayPal User,

Today we had some trouble with one of our computer systems. While the trouble appears to be minor, we are not taking any chances. We decided to take the troubled system offline and replace it with a new system. Unfortunately this caused us to lose some member data. Please follow the link below and log into your account to make sure your information is not affected. Account balances have not been affected.

Because of the inconvenience this causes we are giving all users that repair their missing data their next two incoming transfers for free! You will pay no fees for your next two incoming transfers. "

They then provide the URL to go to login to your account.

BUT BE AWARE.. The URL you are sent to is NOT PAYPAL.
http://www.paypalsys.com

Paypal will not contact you and ask you to go to the site, login with your details to verify information etc.  This is an email scam to try and retrieve
your paypal account information. 

(3)=========Call to claim your prize/lotto scams
This is taken directly from the AT&T website...
Placing International Calls Without Realizing It
Its not always easy to tell if you're dialing an international telephone
number. In most cases, you have to dial "011? to begin a call to a foreign
country. But there are locations outside the U.S. whose telephone numbers may
look like domestic long-distance calls, but they are actually international
calls and international rates apply. For example, 809, 284 and 876 are area
codes in the Caribbean.

There are many scams that deceive consumers into calling international numbers.
You may see an ad for a service that directs you to call a specific number, or
you may receive a page, an e-mail message or an urgent" message on your
answering machine. All messages direct you to call a number for more information
almost always an international number.

Here's a portion of my friend's email.

If you call from the US, you will apparently be charged $2425 per-minute. Or,
you'll get a long recorded message. The point is, they will try to
keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the charges.
Unfortunately, when you get your phone bill, you'll often be charged
more than $24,100.00.

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YES! WE AT ABMA HAVE BEEN SCAMMED TOO. PEOPLE NOT SENDING GOODS
AFTER PAYING VIA PAYPAL SYSTEM TO THEM.
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What paypal might say to purchases made via them!... dont expect
them to refund.. also note they give out FBI link to report scams!,
if you feel strongly about that program ripping you off.


PAYPAL Buyer Complaint Reply!
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PayPal is a user initiated system.  When filing your Buyer Complaint, you
chose the dispute reason "Not as Described".  To us, this means that you
received your merchandise but were not satisfied with it.  There is no 
indication in your case notes that the merchandise was not received, only
that you had tried to contact the seller and did not receive a response.

PayPal's Buyer Complaint Policy does not cover these types of claims.  We
are not the venue that lists the item and we do not act as an escrow 
service.  PayPal is not in the position to verify the quality of 
merchandise received versus what was advertised.  Therefore, we are unable
to reverse this transaction or issue you a refund.

Although the claim is closed, the dispute is noted in the seller's account
records.  If we find that a user has violated our policies, we will 
restrict that users account from use until all issues have been resolved
to
our satisfaction.

You may wish to pursue other avenues of recourse.  If this transaction 
occurred on an auction site, we encourage you to contact that auction
site,
as they may provide you with insurance coverage.

You may also file a claim with the FBI by going to the following website:
http://www.fbi.gov/contactus.htm

We apologize that we cannot be of further assistance to you.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.
Paypal. [2002]
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Note! ABMA Cant be held responsible for the user submitted comments
or validate the facts of the case. These are only used as
potential warnings. Its up to the users if they remain in
any program they are promoting. We however would like any program
meantioned in this list not to be promoted on ReferralSWAP,
and any ABMA associated AD services,
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